To his credit, it's kind of neat seeing Sidious disarm Yoda first with lighting, it really makes Yoda's situation look hopeless for a few minutes. Master Yoda made a last-ditch attempt to stop him, and their fight spilled over into the now-empty Senate rotunda. Yoda exerting himself to avoid the pods may have contributed to his fatigue but I don't think it would have changed much in the long run. Reveling in his power, he is challenged by a feisty Yoda in the empty Coruscant Senate chamber. Rematch: Yoda vs Sidious..... on Splash Mountain. I thought it was shown pretty amply that he held his own against Sidious just fine, and at the very least it was a stalemate as far as skills go. Not a single source credits Yoda with an advantage. It's really interesting. I don't put much stock in simplified general summaries. Luke vs Palpatine is going to be the longest and most hard-fought battle, allowing either Yoda or Plagueis to tip the scale that much to make the fight favorable to the other side. Pretty clear cut here. @kilius: I honestly don't think that fall hurt him that much- He seemed to be worn out from how quickly he had to escape through the internal tunnels of the Senate building. The script is strangely vague as to how Yoda got to pods; he's redirecting Sidious's lighting with his lightsaber and without explanation he leaps to the pods. Yoda is eventually outmatched by Sidious. You’re literally telling me “I don’t care what these quotes say, I think Yoda can win”. However, it looks as if he's about to taunt Yoda again seconds before he gets force pushed(watch 1:15-1:17 in slow motion), so it didn't really bother him until later since Sidious is hit with a fairly hard wakeup call when he gets force pushed. Queen’s Peril by E.K. I think they probably did, but maybe didn't film the lightning battle in the CP because they already had a lightning battle at the end and didn't want to be repetitive. Sorry I really don't know. Was it during final moments of the lighting battle? I ask because I was just reading a thread on Quora where a user stated that Palpatine was the superior in terms of stamina during their fight. 10 Easter Eggs And Nods In Joker That You Might've... 10 Moments In Avengers: Endgame That Surprised Eve... Watch: The Dark Knight Battles Machines In Batman Vs. Termin... Watch: Willy's Wonderland Trailer Teases Nicolas Cage's Next... Watch: New Trailer For Jackie Chan's Globetrotting Action Mo... Watch: First Trailer For Killer Klowns From Outer Space Dire... Watch: Michael Returns In Terrifying New Halloween... Watch: Netflix Reveals 10 Scary Scenes Guaranteed ... Watch: Margaret Thatcher Takes The Spotlight In Ne... Watch: The Mandalorian Recap Video Prepares You Fo... One of the grandest schemes in the Star Wars narrative was how Darth Sidious managed to masquerade as a Republic Senator and mingle with Jedi undetected. Also explains why Yoda didn't go back up and him outright admitting he had failed in his goal- the goal of beating Sidious. So yeah with the Script and JN bridging the gap I think we can say Yoda is trying to reach the unarmed Sidious so he can bring a quick end to it but Sidious secure in his position is able to thwart his efforts and Yoda is thus forced to change tactics. DE Luke > ROTS Sheev and Yoda > Plagueis. Watch 2:41-2:44. I'm sure the fall had something to do with it. The jn which follows the script and the final cut of the movie more closely, outright states: "Yoda caught it. Yoda was and continues to be outmatched by him. Logically its Sidious and Plagueis. That's a good way of putting thematically. They're nothing new. As for it not increasing power, that's wrong. )Was it when Sidious hurled Senate pods at Yoda? No such thing. Plagueis is the weak link. My Yoda-fanboy heart says Yoda would have the edge. @greysentinel365, Not a single one of these sources states that Yoda was losing the final lightning battle- they're not specific enough for you to use them as evidence of that because they are conclusive as well as general statements about the outcome of the duel in general, not specific statements about a specific phase of the duel. The Real Origin Of Doctor Who's Timey-Wimey Catchphrase, Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Review. I reasoned he had used up too much energy, but still. Round 2 is probably a could go either way scenario. The explosion threw him high into the air, with nothing to grab to break his fall. Sith Team will destroys blonde Mary Sue and little green dwarf. The Junior Novelization how ever provides a plausible scenario; Sidious's lighting was too overpowering and thus Yoda was forced to retreat to the pods while Sidious secured the high ground to harass him with pods. I can fathom Yoda loosing; in fact I'm sure most Yoda supporters will agree he lost the fight and failed his mission. The blue energy built into a glowing ball in his hand, ready to throw back at the Sith Lord the moment his attack stopped. Any battles Sidious did get into would have been far below the kind of fight Yoda would give him. In light of all this I think you can forgive me for being skeptical of the accuracy of such claims of Yoda being overmatched as a combatant. @kilius: You’re literally telling me “I don’t care what these quotes say, I think Yoda can win”. Plagueis could probably best Luke or is at least comparable in skill/power enough for to seriously press him long enough for the Emperor to kill Yoda. The ultimate success of the Grand Plan of the Sith finally being accomplished just made Sidious feel unstoppable. - Chris Cherasi / Steve Sansweet, "Ask the Jedi Council", 2001. @laflux: Seems like a pretty good fight, though. He overwhelmed Yoda per a plethora of canonical sources which caused Yoda to fall down. Oh man that was awesome! @laflux: Good, fight and as swords has said, i'd agree, i mean i still think luke could win and give yoda the edge in victory, but it all depends on luke really. We need to start a petition telling Disney to release a short film of them fighting in Disneyland. Some are decidedly abstract.". He threw it back at Palpatine who barely dodged in time. This is not up for debate. And it eluded him completely.”. It’s a given that the Sith were trained in all manner of deceit and subterfuge, but this was some next-level infiltration skill. The only reliable source where Sidious had a clear position of superiority over Yoda is in the Stover novelization and that depiction of the fight is heavily abbreviated and outright contradicted by its more canonical source the movie. I'm going to go against the grain and take team two. I'm still digging for Kyp feats, I've found interesting ones though. The passage reads: “The light surrounded him, the dark a comfortable distance from the limits of his perception. It’s a furious, unprecedented battle royale, with both adversaries hurling and dodging chamber pods. Both have learned from thier last encounter. 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No reason to simply assume based on that encounter that Sidious would win any other encounter. There is a reason Palpatine tried running in the beginning, and that's because he knew there was a chance he could lose. Yoda and Sidious were both blown away by an explosion out of eithers control. Could go either way tbh, Anyone who says either stomps, one shots or wins easily are out right ridiculous. He even knocks him over. Who wins? And as I've already outlined in the paragraphs above, there were numerus points where both sides traded advantages, as per the movie, script, and jn. So, in a nutshell, one could say Yoda throws the one pod at Sidious with finesse while Palpatine simply throws the 7 pods at Yoda. That an advantage no? The explosion threw him high into the air, with nothing to grab to break his fall. lol those are shots from the movie with a different filter. Honestly, the quotes stating Plagueis and Sidious shifted the balance of the force to the dark side with their "ritual" and the heavy implication from Luceno that it was this that caused the Galaxy to be steeped in the dark side, as well as the clear showings of Plagueis being amped by this change is enough for me. My head says stalemate. I've never cared for the whole "Yoda head butts Sidious" thing- I'm glad they flipped it to him force pushing him.

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